3 Reasons Why Occupy Wall Street Doesn’t Matter

October 24, 2011

Now that Occupy Wall Street has been going a while (into its second month), there’s a pick-up in “What you don’t know about OWS” posts/articles.

I know about Occupy Wall Street. I’ve been there. I actually count some of the protesters as friends. A couple days ago, I brashly told people that I was an expert on OWS and when they laughed, I told them I meant it.

Here’s why OWS is a waste of time:

1) They’re self-defeating

I spoke at length to an anarchist at Zuccotti Park/Liberty Plaza. Smart, interesting, funny guy with a cohesive worldview. He didn’t have much in common with a lot of the other protesters, as he sees Occupy Wall Street as an illegal occupation of a public park. He is also willing to fight the authorities as (he sees) appropriate and violate laws. How many of the other protesters are into this? Not very many. Case in point: An earlier day, while yelling “No justice, no peace, fuck the police!” he was physically grabbed by another protester who demanded that he stop doing that, that he was inciting the cops to go after them. The anarchist was stunned that a movement that theoretically comes from an idea of freedom had people in it who were trying to undermine his.

All-inclusivity causes such problems.

As a gesture of goodwill to the people in the neighborhood, Occupy Wall Street decided to place limits on drumming, making it only 2 hours a day. Guess who wasn’t happy about this? The drummers. OWS had taken a majority’s decision to impose something on a minority.

2) OWS doesn’t have a plan (or even a coherent ideology)

Sure, people are mad, but complaining isn’t enough. Being upset at the elite is easy; having ground-level solutions is not. I saw a woman bringing voter registration forms to OWS. It was heartening, until I saw people looking at her like she was an alien.

It’s impossible for them to have a unified message, because there are communists and anarchists and average sorts of American liberals all co-existing. One person will preach the coming violent overthrow of the government while another is a staunch peace activist. There’s no bridging that divide.

They tout themselves as a leaderless movement. How many leaderless, scattered movements have coalesced into greatness?

3) People are fickle

It’s October now. The weather has been nice. I’ve been wearing shorts, at points. Who wants to sleep in a park in the dead of winter?

They’ve started shutting down the Occupy Other Places locales. How much will that continue? How long can you keep going out to support a message that rests on this:

Even if the on-the-ground protesters really stick to it and ramp things up, that might actually be counter-productive. Going out and getting arrested really won’t help the movement. In fact, any sort of real pushing of boundaries, as could happen with the communist and anarchists, will result in a pretty swift dampening of the movement, both by law enforcement and public opinion.

OWS has received a lot of press and support in the past couple works. Financially, they’re doing fine, with over half a million dollars, recently. From where? Not from 99% of Americans. Let’s say it was one dollar given per person (which in all likelihood, it wasn’t). That’s 500,000 people who saw fit to financially support OWS. Is that a movement that has a promise of longevity?

The main site of OWS is in a little bubble, but going down to Occupy Times Square allowed me to be around tourists and locals and see a broader cross-section of opinion. You know what the reaction was from normal, apolitical Americans? It’s silly.

That’s not a movement that’ll change the world. Nor can it. Just being on the streets does nothing. Even if you’re sleeping there. Even if you have funny signs.

In the meantime, enjoy the show, because in a few weeks, we’ll be moving on to the next story.

 




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  • http://travelsofadam.com Adam

    “being on the streets” is better than being quiet and staying at home, satisfied with life as it is. change only happens when people begin to speak up and do something. i see this as a stepping stone.

    • http://roniweiss.com Roni Weiss

      I have debated that internally. Is it that much better to just “do something”? Not in every case.

      There’s some nice thing about complaining in unity, but the difference between you and me is that I see this as an offshoot of people being angry, not being a stepping stone.

      Whatever might come out of the frustration of the actual 99% will have nothing to do with the OWS movement, which has structured itself to be impotent.

    • Jordan Viray

      The protests don’t seem to be a stepping stone to anything. It would be better if they stayed at home and figured out, in a deliberate and consistent way, the causes and mechanics behind the current bad situation.

  • Kjersti

    It’s the protesters’ job and goal to push for policy changes to help growing inequality. They don’t need to turn into a think tank and write white papers on policy proposals in order to make a difference. If they change the direction of lawmakers and point them toward jobs and financial reform, they have done enough. 

    • http://roniweiss.com Roni Weiss

      “push for policy changes”

      Like what?

      What policy changes is the OWS movement pushing for? Income equality? By doing what?

      They aren’t pushing for policy changes and they are creating inequality in their own ranks. Not a role model, in my eyes.

  • Nikki Prz

    I will give you $15 if you can manage to write one post ever that is hopeful and lacks cynicism. Go.

    • http://roniweiss.com Roni Weiss

      Hope without cause is delusion.

      Hence people being disappointed with Obama. I liked him because our politics and worldview intersect. I still like him. Others have become disillusioned because they put the hope of the world on him.

      Re: cynicism, I would love if they did something. I just don’t see it going in that direction. My ‘hope’ is to be happily surprised.

      My expectation does not match that.

      • Jordan Viray

        Still, an easy $15. Write a post about how cell phones don’t cause cancer or something.

  • http://twitter.com/travel_version Dave L

    The way I see it; the idea behind it is good but rising against something is one thing, bringing an actual solution to the table is entirely different. I get why people feel drawn to the movement but now that its’ picked up some steam, there has to be some kind of plan to use that visibility and actually bring change, otherwise it really just ends up being unhappy people complaining about it.

    • http://roniweiss.com Roni Weiss

      People think I’m so cynical, but I feel like I’m just looking at the facts. I’d love for things to change and for more Americans to be happy…

      But it’ll take more. A lot more. And possibly not just more, but something wholly different than OWS.

  • Frostie

    I don’t think it’s pointless. I don’t even think it needs to be organized. I am happy that it raised awareness about the actual facts that had been widely considered as some kind of conspiracy theory. At least now you’re not being treated as a nut when speaking out of the financial elite and the impact it’s got on the global economy and life on Earth. I myself need a little reminder every now and then to clear my mind from consumerist thoughts and actions. So, the protesters did it for me, and I think that the Cause might as well be to influence every single person to live their life free from material wishes and tons of garbage and CO2 emissions

    • http://roniweiss.com Roni Weiss

      I’m glad that it has inspired you, but I wonder if the amount of people it is inspiring balances out with all the overtime that it is costing for police presence and small business disruptions that are occurring.

  • Ann

    I love that there are so many comments from former classmates here. It’s like a reunion on Roni’s blog.

    I do get Roni’s point. I think the ideas behind the Occupy Wall Street movement have good ideas as well but the entire movement has become more of a circus than a coherent protest.

    What’s great about this country is we have the freedom to protest and voice our opinions to try to enact change. Kjersti – I agree that organized movements can push towards results in policy changes and reforms like you had mentioned. However, the problem with fragmented movements such as this is they often lack clear messages and takeaways. There is no thought leadership or some sort of arm providing all of these protesters with some points to take to their congressmen or whoever. And the problem is that many of these people don’t really have the same reasons for being there as Roni cited – anarchists, general liberals, unemployed people, folks who like camping out with other people because it’s sort of fun, communists, very educated and upset people, whoever. On the news, there was one girl in Seattle who was proud to get arrested and didn’t even know what she was protesting – she yelled, “It’s about human rights!” Ummm… maybe?

    Now I know why people are angry and I don’t like the vast inequaliteis that we have either. I think this slide deck is a good summary:

    http://www.businessinsider.com/what-wall-street-protesters-are-so-angry-about-2011-10

    I would like to think that our lawmakers are smart enough to figure this out and try to make a series of reforms that improve our economic outcome over the next years and decades. But without clear messaging and positioning and takeways, protests are just gatherings of people yelling and complaining disjointed and sometimes unrelated things. That makes it a hell of a lot easier to ignore and for average americans to dismiss.

    • http://roniweiss.com Roni Weiss

      I think it’s a proven fact that Terrace Park Elementary c/o 1994 produced some of the greatest minds known to man… ;)

      Thanks for the time that you put into your comment, as well as the link.I’m happy that people have seen fit to chime in.

  • http://twitter.com/amandaelsewhere Amanda Patterson

    I don’t think it makes you a cynical person to think that OWS is pointless.

  • http://www.podcastparty.blogspot.com DS

    Re: not having a coherent plan: I heard an organizer for OWS interviewed on the radio last week & he said they were working on putting together some kind of agenda or goals for the movement.  (He didn’t say when it was coming.)

    I do think they need some kind of plan or goals to move forward, because they can’t just stay in that park forever, and because they are alienating neighbors, etc. with the noise, disruption, etc.

    As for some OWS supporters having odd or bizarre messages, well, there were plenty of participants at Tea Party rallies who were just as bizarre or ill-informed, and that movement survived and thrived.

    I definitely agree that the idea of trying to have a totally democratic organization that consists of thousands of people choosing the group’s direction isn’t really a great way to run an org.

    As for the group not lasting because people are fickle, a lot of these folks are students or are unemployed, so they 1] have free time and 2] may be willing to spend time on something that (they feel) might help them have a better future (e.g., a job). I’m sure a lot of people thought MoveOn.org or the Tea Party would fizzle out after a few months.

    Though they can’t keep up having thousands of people staying outdoors all year, the organization itself can certainly carry on. I don’t think the movement is irrelevant or doesn’t matter.

    • http://roniweiss.com Roni Weiss

      I appreciate your reasoned, thorough comment.

      In my eyes, what will determine whether it matters or not is if it was just a news story or if there will be actual changes caused.

      For now, I don’t see it on the road to actual changes.


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